A podcast exploring the idea that lawyers can (and should) serve as healers of human conflict.

“The obligation of our profession is, or has long been thought to be, to serve as healers of human conflict.”

-Chief Justice Warren Berger.

Through conversations with lawyers, mediators, and innovators, this podcast explores a quiet transformation happening inside the legal profession.

Listen on Apple or Spotify.

What the Podcast Is About

This podcast explores the evolution of the legal profession and legal systems and the people helping lead that change.

Guests include lawyers, mediators, judges, scholars, and other professionals who are working to resolve conflict in more thoughtful and constructive ways.

Conversations often touch on topics such as:

  • the limits of adversarial legal systems

  • mediation and collaborative law

  • restorative and integrative approaches

  • lawyer burnout and professional transformation

  • the future of the legal profession

Who Makes a Great Guest

I’m especially interested in speaking with people who are thinking deeply about the future of the legal profession and the role lawyers can play in resolving conflict more constructively.

Great guests for this podcast often include:

  • lawyers exploring new ways of practicing law;

  • mediators and conflict resolution professionals;

  • judges, scholars, and legal thinkers;

  • lawyers who have stepped away from traditional adversarial practice; and

  • innovators working on restorative, collaborative, or integrative legal systems

If you have an idea that fits within this broader conversation about how the legal profession can evolve, I’d love to hear from you. You do not need to be a lawyer to be a guest or have a voice on this important topic!

What to Expect as a Guest

Conversations are relaxed, thoughtful, and typically run 30–40 minutes.

The goal is not debate or confrontation. Instead, the podcast creates space for deeper reflection about the legal profession and how it can evolve.

We explore personal journeys, ideas for reform, and practical ways lawyers can help heal conflict rather than escalate it.

Guest Preparation

Interviews are recorded remotely via Riverside (you’ll receive a link in your interview confirmation email).

To help the recording go smoothly, please:

  • Join from a quiet location where you won’t be interrupted

  • Use a computer with your camera and microphone turned on

  • Headphones or an external microphone can help improve sound quality, but are not necessary or required

  • Please join a few minutes early so we can check audio/video before recording

Be My Guest!

If you're interested in being a guest—or if you know someone who would be a great guest—please fill out the form below.

I review all submissions personally and will follow up if the topic feels like a good fit for the podcast.